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I agree with them Akhi, there is no such talks until the conditions are fulfilled if the Gov is really sincere, we do learn from the Mistakes of our brothers who preceded us, and ( Hamas : Fath) issue is a living experience without mentioning the previous ones.

It's so irritating when people who claim to be Muslims find it hard and tough and illogical to establish the basic conditions for an Islamic Reconciliation with another group of Muslims who fought to establish an Islamic state!

Unless they're Secular and thinking they're Muslims then it's something else!

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We are going round and round here it seems to be( am I the only one seeing this?). Lets start from the beginning, shall we?
You asked Are Jihadis against a modern society, especially the youth group( I added that)? The answer is NO, to me. And trust me, I am no secular dude.
Ill ask you some questions, and this time answer them. Do you sincerely believe that a rebel group that comes to power with little or no foreign government help can sustain its hold in power in such a way that it will lead its people into peace, prosperity, and technological development? Yes, they can hold the country for a few decades, but what kind of country will that be?
Thanks to the Youth Ideology of not having diplomatic relations with kaafir states(100% od the world's states), they dont have friends in the international scene. The country would be in sanctions, endless arming of insurgents by Ethiopia, and so on.
But Abu, let me tell you one thing: regardless of what you believe I believe that the youth will eventually reform for the better. This is evident from their new stance to kenya: they wont attack it if kenya doesnt do that first. This is an improvement. Its also the result of many intellectuals joining them.
In short, if the youth start opening diplomatic relations with the world. then they are not against modernisation.But If they want to put themselves and the country in a box, then we will see if they will be able to reinvent science and build a modern society from scratch!